Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

02/15/2013 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:03:22 AM Start
08:03:54 AM HB21
09:56:57 AM Adjourn
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*+ HB 21 FOUR-DAY SCHOOL WEEK TELECONFERENCED
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*+ HB 87 EXTEND SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICE AGENCY TELECONFERENCED
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                   HB 21-FOUR-DAY SCHOOL WEEK                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:03:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced  that the first order of  business would be                                                              
HOUSE BILL  NO. 21,  "An Act relating  to the  length of  a school                                                              
week; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:04:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON introduced HB 21, paraphrasing  from the                                                              
sponsor statement, which read [original punctuation provided]:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     HB 21 would  allow a pilot program for one  rural school                                                                   
     district to implement a 4 day school week.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     There is  continued concern of poor  student performance                                                                   
     in  our  schools.     We  should  be   actively  seeking                                                                   
     alternative   solutions   that  may   improve   district                                                                   
     results.  There  are over 22 states in the  US that have                                                                   
     implemented a 4 day week in rural districts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     For most  schools this has  been a positive  achievement                                                                   
     - increased  morale for  students and teachers,  reduced                                                                   
     absenteeism and  allowing teachers and students  to have                                                                   
     more  direct contact  time  which then  leads to  better                                                                   
     understanding of educational materials.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Provisions in  HB 21 require  the district to  show that                                                                   
     the  majority of  the community,  students and  teachers                                                                   
     support    the   implementation    of   this    program.                                                                   
     Additionally, the  district will have to prove  that the                                                                   
     students  are  receiving  the  equivalent  of  a  5  day                                                                   
     school  week.    They  will also  be  required  to  file                                                                   
     quarterly  reports  to the  Department  of Education  on                                                                   
     student and  teacher performance  and the effect  of the                                                                   
     program.     Specifically  an  annual  report   will  be                                                                   
     required  to be submitted  to the legislative  education                                                                   
     committee on  the progress and performance  ratings from                                                                   
     the school district.   This report will be  due no later                                                                   
     than January  15th and must include a comparison  of the                                                                   
     performance ratings  before and after  implementation of                                                                   
     the 4 day week.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     This bill  is specific  for a 3  year pilot program;  at                                                                   
     the  end  of  that  time  period,  the  State  Board  of                                                                   
     Education  will evaluate  the program  and determine  if                                                                   
     it is beneficial to the district.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:09:08 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON expressed  caution for  designing a  system                                                              
focusing   on   cost  saving   and   convenience   versus   school                                                              
achievement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON agreed, and  said that an  annual report                                                              
will  be   required  for   submission  to   this  committee,   the                                                              
commissioner  of Department  of  Education  and Early  Development                                                              
(EED),  as well  as to  the  State Board  of  Education and  Early                                                              
Development,  ensuring student  progress  and school  performance.                                                              
She  suggested  that  if  a school  adopts  a  four-day  week  and                                                              
indicates  an improvement  of performance,  it would be  important                                                              
information for other schools considering a similar schedule.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON   suggested   specific   requirements   be                                                              
stipulated to  ensure that the  quality of education  is reflected                                                              
in the reports that  will be filed, and he stated  support for the                                                              
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:11:47 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  asked how  the equivalency of  a five-day  week will                                                              
be  accomplished  in  four-days;   possibly  implementing  on-line                                                              
courses, working from home, or longer school days.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  said  a longer  school  day  would  be                                                              
scheduled,  to ensure  that  the  same number  of  teacher:student                                                              
hours are  maintained, and deferred  further details  for response                                                              
by the school superintendent.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:12:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER queried  whether  teachers are  supportive                                                              
and if contract issues have been considered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON said the teacher agreements  will not be                                                              
changed, as  the expectation is  for educators to work  a five-day                                                              
week.   To a  follow-up question,  regarding student response  and                                                              
achievement  when attending  modified  school  days, she  directed                                                              
attention to  the committee  packet and  several reports  based on                                                              
data  from  states  with  public schools  that  offer  a  four-day                                                              
school  week.   She  said the  information  is thorough  regarding                                                              
scholastic  achievement; however,  information  on attendance  may                                                              
not be as available.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:14:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  referred  to   the  fiscal   note,  which                                                              
stipulates  153 teaching  days,  and said  it may  be in  conflict                                                              
with statute  that requires  172 days, despite  the length  of the                                                              
day.  He  pointed out that the  bill does not contain  a provision                                                              
temporarily suspending  the day  count requirement to  accommodate                                                              
the proposed pilot program.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.   WILSON  reiterated  that  the   teachers  are                                                              
supportive  of the  schedule,  and have  the  expectation to  work                                                              
five-days in  accordance with current  contracts.  The  law allows                                                              
schools  to request  departmental  waivers, an  option which  some                                                              
districts may choose to exercise.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:16:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE  WILSON, Alaska State  Legislature, speaking                                                              
as a  joint prime sponsor,  said statute currently  allows schools                                                              
to  request a  four-day  school  week through  the  Office of  the                                                              
Commissioner,  EED;  however,  the   bill  provides  autonomy  and                                                              
flexibility  to   districts  based   on  community   interest  and                                                              
involvement.  The  four-day week has worked well  in other states,                                                              
as indicated  in the  reports contained  in the committee  packet,                                                              
and she  said, attendance  is shown to  improve and  stress levels                                                              
are  lowered.   She reported  how the  three-day weekend  provides                                                              
exciting options,  and said many  of the programs operate  best in                                                              
small  communities.     Further,   she  stressed  how   this  bill                                                              
represents local  control and provides cost saving  measures.  The                                                              
amount  of savings  to  a district  would depend  on  a number  of                                                              
factors,  which include:    fuel, food,  and  utilities.   Another                                                              
benefit is  having longer blocks  of class time  available, during                                                              
the  extended  day.    Reports   indicate  that  students  respond                                                              
positively  to these  lengthened study  periods.   There may  be a                                                              
downside  also,   as  changing   a  traditional  schedule   always                                                              
presents a challenge.   A district with several  schools would not                                                              
be  required to  have every  school on  a four-day  week, and  she                                                              
underscored  that the bill  is not  a one  size fits all  mandate.                                                              
She  reiterated the  flexibility that  HB 21  allows parents,  and                                                              
reminded the  committee that  parental involvement  is known  as a                                                              
key factor  for school improvement.   In  order for a  district to                                                              
consider a  four-day week,  a high  level of parental  involvement                                                              
is required.   As a  three year pilot  program, HB 21  will return                                                              
to  the committee  for review.    Finally, she  said the  district                                                              
will handle  financial concerns  and budgetary adjustments,  hence                                                              
the zero fiscal note attached to the bill.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:23:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  clarified that  HB 21 allows  some schools                                                              
in a  district to  not implement  the four-day  week and  asked if                                                              
there is language in the bill stipulating that option.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON confirmed the members  understanding and                                                              
said  language is  not included,  as  the decision  occurs at  the                                                              
local level, through community meetings.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  noted that the bill  specifies "district,"                                                              
and he  maintained the necessity  for language stipulating  that a                                                              
"school"  could   request  permission   to  continue   a  five-day                                                              
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  said that schools  are already  allowed                                                              
the five-day  week, and HB  21 provides  an option for  a four-day                                                              
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER drew  attention to  page 1,  line 13,  and                                                              
paraphrased  the  language  which  states  "demonstrates  majority                                                              
community support  ...", to  ask what  method of measurement  will                                                              
determine the level of support.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON answered that community  public hearings                                                              
would  be  held,   and  common  sense  may  need   to  prevail  in                                                              
determining  the  level  of  community   support;  a  percent  for                                                              
required  agreement is  not  stipulated.   She  stressed that  the                                                              
best  laid  plan will  not  work  in  a community  that  does  not                                                              
embrace the concept.   Additionally, a district  could implement a                                                              
four-day week  for one year, and  if it doesn't  prove successful,                                                              
without  extensive  effort  return  to the  five-day  program  the                                                              
following year.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER noted  that it  would be  the call  of the                                                              
local school board,  whether there was cause to change  to a four-                                                              
day  week and  conjectured  that the  recourse  for the  community                                                              
would  be to  overturn  the school  board  at  the next  available                                                              
election.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON  stressed   the  importance  for  local                                                              
control  of  schools,  and  HB 21  provides  another  tool  for  a                                                              
district to  tailor a program to  meet specific needs,  as well as                                                              
to implement cost saving measures.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:27:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON stated  his understanding  that the  option                                                              
will be  available  to all districts,  but a  district must  apply                                                              
within 30  days of  the effective date  of the act;  it is  not an                                                              
ongoing pilot program with start-up allowed any time.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  said  HB 21  is specific  to allow  one                                                              
district to participate  in a pilot program for three  years.  She                                                              
said  the sponsors  may be  open to  an amendment  to allow  other                                                              
districts to participate.   However, the intent is  that the pilot                                                              
program will  report data to ensure  that this approach  works for                                                              
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON added that the timeframe  was stipulated                                                              
to  enable the  district requesting  the action  to implement  the                                                              
program in the coming school year [2013-14].                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:29:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  noted that the program  appears successful                                                              
in several  states,  and suggested  that it be  made available  to                                                              
other districts without delay.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.   WILSON  responded  that  EED   has  expressed                                                              
concern,  as  implementation  necessitates  appropriate  planning.                                                              
Additionally, the  limit ensures that districts will  approach the                                                              
option with caution and by exercising due diligence.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:30:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  confirmed that  HB 21 doesn't  override the                                                              
commissioner's  ability to  grant flexible  schedules through  the                                                              
statute already available;  the bill is outside  of that authority                                                              
without cancelling it.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON clarified that  HB 21 does  override the                                                              
authority  intentionally,  as  the requesting  district  has  made                                                              
application  to   the  department  and  been  denied.     However,                                                              
providing the  opportunity for the  district to make  the decision                                                              
through  community   involvement  is   important,  and   the  bill                                                              
establishes that option.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  added  that the  focus is  not only  on                                                              
finances;  however, in  some areas  a school  bus ride  may be  in                                                              
excess of an  hour every day, which represents  a significant time                                                              
commitment for the  student as well as cost to the  district.  She                                                              
expressed hope  that other  districts will see  this as  an option                                                              
for implementation.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:33:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PETE  HIGGINS characterized the proposal  as a good                                                              
idea.  However,  he opined that  it would be an injustice  for the                                                              
district  that brought  this  forward because  this  [legislation]                                                              
makes it open to  all districts.  He further opined  that it could                                                              
be  an issue  if  the department  awarded  this  pilot project  to                                                              
another district  [besides the district that brought  it forward].                                                              
Therefore,  he related  his  belief that  the  proposal should  be                                                              
available for  all districts that  meet the criteria  because then                                                              
the pilot  programs could  be compared to  determine how  well the                                                              
program is working.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:34:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  said that the  requesting district  may                                                              
have gained  approval via  the commissioner's  office if  they had                                                              
been able to  provide required information, which is  now on hand.                                                              
She  said it  would  not  be objectionable  amend  HB  21 for  the                                                              
purpose of allowing additional participation.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:36:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  directed attention  to page 1, line  6 and                                                              
read, "the  board shall approve,  at the request of  the governing                                                              
body  of  a  school  district,"  and  asked  if  the  board  being                                                              
referred  to   is  the   State  Board   of  Education   and  Early                                                              
Development or  the local school board.   He pointed out  that the                                                              
governing  body would  be the  local school  board, and  suggested                                                              
that there may be a conflict in the language as drafted.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON clarified that the initial  reference to                                                              
"board"  is intended  to be  the  local school  board, and  agreed                                                              
that the language may need to be clarified/amended.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:37:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. DONALD  GATZKE,  Teacher, stated  support for  HB 21 and  said                                                              
how a  child fulfills  required school  attendance should  be left                                                              
to  the discretion  of  the  parents  speaking through  the  local                                                              
school  board, and  should not  be  an issue  of state  authority.                                                              
The important  point  is not the  configuration  of days,  but the                                                              
seat time  required.   If the parents  are supportive  and allowed                                                              
to have  their child  attend a four-day  week, he conjectured,  it                                                              
may be a  stimulus for them to  ensure that the student  attend as                                                              
required.   He said  some students  miss over  100 days  per year,                                                              
and  there  is   a  direct  correlation  between   attendance  and                                                              
performance.   Whatever can be done  to assist parents  in getting                                                              
their child  to school should be  a focus.  Therefore,  if parents                                                              
wanted  year-a-round school  with  time between  quarters, such  a                                                              
schedule  should  also  be supported.    Emphasis  for  attendance                                                              
versus stipulating  when  attendance will  occur is important,  he                                                              
stressed.   Also,  a case could  be made  for the  benefit to  the                                                              
student  in  having  a  longer  school  day,  and  teachers  would                                                              
appreciate  having  extended time  to  cover  lesson plans.    The                                                              
teacher contract  is negotiable  with the  local union  bargaining                                                              
unit he finished, and urged passage of the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:40:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   asked  about  the   correlation  between                                                              
attendance  and  performance and  asked  for the  outside  limits;                                                              
when might effectiveness begin to fade.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR. GATZKE  offered that a six-day  school week provides  a higher                                                              
performance even with a shortened school year.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:41:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAUREN BURCH,  Superintendent, Southeast  Island School  District,                                                              
said the  Southeast Island  School District  requested a  four-day                                                              
school week for  the last school year, as a  grassroots initiative                                                              
from  the  nine school  communities  in  the  area.   Over  ninety                                                              
percent  of   the  community  members   are  behind   taking  this                                                              
approach,  and the  teachers are  also supportive.   He  suggested                                                              
that  amending  the  bill  to  add   language  stating  "or  board                                                              
approved  alternative  schedule"  would address  the  concern  for                                                              
minimum  days relating  to teacher  retirement.   Considering  the                                                              
sports and  other activities, he  projected that  attendance could                                                              
be improved  by 20  percent, as  many Friday  or Monday  dates are                                                              
used  for  students  to  travel   for  either  school  or  private                                                              
reasons.   The  district request  was turned  down by  EED due  to                                                              
lack of  information regarding how  a four-day week could  work in                                                              
a small rural area.   He pointed out that the  district's proposal                                                              
includes  professional  development   time  for  teacher's  to  be                                                              
scheduled  for Fridays,  and  is a  radical  improvement.   Having                                                              
nine  schools  that  are  separated  by  large  distances,  it  is                                                              
difficult  to  bring  staff  together and  this  would  help  that                                                              
effort immensely.   The district  is considered successful  by any                                                              
standard, he  reported, and stressed  that there are a  dozen ways                                                              
for  students  to attain  an  education.   The  current  structure                                                              
results in students missing too many school days.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:47:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON noted  that not all  schools will  go to                                                              
the four-day school week, and asked for clarification.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURCH  responded  that  a  number  of  school  calendars  are                                                              
proposed and  chosen by majority rule.   Many of the  schools only                                                              
have  10 students  with a  variety of  specific needs  and if  one                                                              
chose to  stay with a five-day  program, it would be  important to                                                              
take that under consideration.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:50:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked what would constitute  an expression                                                              
of compelling support  to approve a pilot four-day  week at either                                                              
an individual school or district wide.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. BURCH said majority  vote has been the rule,  and the Advisory                                                              
School  Council  (ASC)  community meetings  are  highly  attended;                                                              
voting  includes students.   He  said that the  district wide  ASC                                                              
vote  was  over  80  percent  last year  and  the  voting  can  be                                                              
reported by  site.  The ASC  wields a heavy influence  over school                                                              
operations, he added.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER  queried  whether  the district  would  be                                                              
locked into  a three  year compliance period,  or could  it return                                                              
to a five-day status on demand.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BURCH responded  that  the ASC  would  expect to  be able  to                                                              
request   an   immediate   change   if  the   program   were   not                                                              
satisfactory.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:54:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BING SANTAMOUR,  stated support for HB  21, and said it  should be                                                              
available  to other  districts as  well.   The existing  [statute]                                                              
allowing a  district to apply  for a four-day  school week  may be                                                              
all that  is necessary,  if it  is broadened,  she suggested,  and                                                              
urged support of the bill.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:57 a.m. to 9:56 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:56:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  apologized  for the extended  at-ease and  announced                                                              
that HB 21 would be held over.                                                                                                  

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HB 87 Sponsors Statement.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 87A.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB087CS.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 87 AEBSD Supporting SESA.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 87_SESA Powerpoint_Policy.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 87_SESA_LegAudit_Report.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 87_SESA_position paper.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87
HB 21 Fiscal Note Administration.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB0021A.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB21 Montana 2011.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB21 Sponsor Statement.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB21 SREB 4 Day.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB21 Univ Maine Research.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB21 UnivGA & Maine.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 21 Fiscal Note Education.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 21
HB 87 Fiscal Note DEED.pdf HEDC 2/15/2013 8:00:00 AM
HB 87